A DIALOG WITH BEN MYERS’ “TWEETING THE TRINITY” #16, #17, #18  Marty Folsom, PhD

A DIALOG WITH BEN MYERS’ “TWEETING THE TRINITY” #16, #17, #18 Marty Folsom, PhD

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III. TRINITARIAN THEOLOGY, ANCIENT AND MODERN #16. Ancients: the word "Father" must be stripped of all connotations except mere relation. Moderns: those ancients thought God was male! The debate over the name “Father” is a long standing issue. To say that Father is “Mere” relations is a bit slim, it can also be seen as a proper name for one specific, particular, unrepeatable person.  Jesus came to show us the Father, and that needed some work! It appears that the disciples did not really get who Jesus’ Father was and most theology books tend to be silent on who the Father is as a distinct person who Jesus came to reveal. But that Father sent Jesus to bring us to a reconciled relationship with as the goal of the Incarnation. This…
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A DIALOG WITH BEN MYERS’ “TWEETING THE TRINITY” #13, #14, #15 Dr Marty Folsom

A DIALOG WITH BEN MYERS’ “TWEETING THE TRINITY” #13, #14, #15 Dr Marty Folsom

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III. TRINITARIAN THEOLOGY, ANCIENT AND MODERN #13. The biggest change in modern trinitarian theology was one of scale: the most minimalist & modest of all doctrines became a Theory of Everything The Trinity was a doctrine that developed slowly as a whole, but the Father-Son relation, the nature of the oneness and threeness of God, and the relation of the three to creation is significant early on. To say that it has become a Theory of Everything, following Barth and TF Torrance, is to say that if you are talking of the Christian God, all discussion must begin with a discussion of how the Trinity informs the ground and grammar of the discussion. If you are going to do a “theology” of anything, then it needs to be understood in…
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A DIALOG WITH BEN MEYERS’ “TWEETING THE TRINITY” #10, #11, #12 – Dr Marty Folsom, PhD

A DIALOG WITH BEN MEYERS’ “TWEETING THE TRINITY” #10, #11, #12 – Dr Marty Folsom, PhD

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  This continues a dialog with Ben Myer’s Blog post with statements 10-12 on how to avoid heresy with the Trinity. We have begun to address the voices of the past in Eastern and Western theology: #10. How does Augustine differ? He takes just one principle of "Greek" theology (the inseparability of persons in action) and proves that it's not absurd or unthinkable. That's all. Well, this is a bit complex. Reading any ancient text is to enter another world. Read the City of God and see if your mind is not spinning at the state of the ancient Roman and Greek world. It was a world of absurdity. We may not be far away today, but in very different forms. To avoid heresy with Augustine one must be very…
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A DIALOG WITH BEN MEYERS’ “TWEETING THE TRINITY” #7, #8, #9 – Marty Folsom, PhD

A DIALOG WITH BEN MEYERS’ “TWEETING THE TRINITY” #7, #8, #9 – Marty Folsom, PhD

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This continues a dialog, engaging statements 7 through 9 of Ben Myer’s blog post on how to avoid heresy with the Trinity: #7. In this doctrine every word is used in a very limited way. Even the numbers 1 and 3 can't be taken literally The call of all good communication is to be careful with our words. When speaking of God, we must always begin with the humility to recognize that our words cannot fully grasp the nature and being of God. At the same time, we must have the confidence to believe that Jesus was the Word and used words that do not keep God separate from us. He brings us to share life with the Wholly Other God who takes on our form to connect. The limitation…
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A Dialogue with Ben Meyers’ “Tweeting the Trinity” #4, #5, #6  Marty Folsom, PhD

A Dialogue with Ben Meyers’ “Tweeting the Trinity” #4, #5, #6 Marty Folsom, PhD

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This continues a dialog with statements 4-6 of Ben Myer’s blog post on how to avoid heresy with the Trinity: #4. Have you come up with a really helpful analogy of the trinity? Well done! Now please don't tell anyone about it, ever This is a really interesting statement. The second sentence is an invitation to silence. It also hopes we maintain a level of contentment with the mystery of the Trinity. It suggests that analogies are not to be explored or shared. All language is a sort of analogy, with words representing an actuality, so we are now invited to live without language or symbols to represent the Trinity. Is this really the goal of the Jesus of the Bible or the Spirit who moves us to cry out,…
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A Dialogue with Ben Meyers “Tweeting the Trinity – Dr Marty Folsom

A Dialogue with Ben Meyers “Tweeting the Trinity – Dr Marty Folsom

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This series of blog interactions engages the great theologian Ben Meyers, who recently posted on avoiding heresy with the Trinity. See http://www.faith-theology.com/2017/06/tweeting-trinity-because-heresy-is-meh.html. I will agree, disagree, and request clarification on other points. I think these issues need further illumination because Ben’s concerns miss some key implications of trinitarian theology. So, we begin at the beginning with a conversation on Ben’s first three tweets, on HOW TO AVOID TRINITARIAN HERESY.   #1. Start by abolishing Trinity Sunday, that fateful day on which preachers think they have to explain the Trinity. If we only talk about the Trinity on Trinity Sunday, and do it poorly, then we need to think about abolishing it. It would be better to say that we need every Sunday to be a Trinity Sunday—in participation, not explanation.…
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